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what's up yeah sorry about that

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i was having

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work stuff that i had to finish up so

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we are good to go we have a

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i have a fantastic show

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for you today

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it's gonna be pretty amazing

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i'm not sure if you guys are familiar

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with um

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project magnet it's the canadian ufo

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uh study project with uh wilbert smith

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um and it's a fantastic uh story

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you'll find out about um some

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connections to a

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project magnet that

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we even had we as in

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the usa

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and the connections there so it's um

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definitely

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interesting so

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you're gonna find out what the

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connections are i have some audio

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testimony that links a couple pieces

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together

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and it touches on a little bit of the

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um secret or speculative uh history

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as far as you know mj 12 people and

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a couple of those figures that may or

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may not be involved

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without further ado we're gonna get into

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[Music]

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so first let's say what's up to

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everybody we have dope nose in the house

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we have josh what's happening gerald

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good to see you

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daniel christensen this is a no nick

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pope day

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you know that's good for you i suppose

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uh we have mr cowford hello sir

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uh hope you're doing well benji what's

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uh thanks for coming by checking out

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this episode here

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uh before

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you know what we have

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to be a pretty great week ahead of us

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tomorrow we have dez smith

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uh remote viewer

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super guy uh super interested in

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speaking with him

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uh because he has a lot of interesting

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things going on and i have a lot of

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interesting questions to ask so looking

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forward to that that's going to be with

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christopher king so that's awesome and

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then um on thursday we have mr lou

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elizondo and that's going to be again

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with mr christopher king so

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um it's gonna be a great week having jay

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on twice this week is awesome

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um the more the merrier as far as i'm

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concerned and being able to see that

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dude

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those of you who are here right now are

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in for a definite treat

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again project magnet

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is a canadian ufo study in 1950

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headed by wilbert smith department of

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transport he was a senior radio engineer

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i guess more or less how you can

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get to know him a little bit

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you know what we like to do here

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we have a lot of fun stuff always to do

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um but uh yeah so you just gotta hang in

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well i find the right video that i want

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without it

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just be quite honest with you

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you know although that may

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make some of you kind of happy or you

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know not care so much

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and lucky for you i found it

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a number of times

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as to what happened to project magnet

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so i prepared the following statement

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which i would like to read

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project magnet was authorized in

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december 1950

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following a request

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made to the canadian department of

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transport by myself

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for permission to make use of the

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department's laboratory and field

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facilities

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in the study of unidentified flying

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objects and physical principles which

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the program consisted of two parts

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the first part was the collecting of as

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much high quality data as possible

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where possible drawing conclusions from

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systematic questioning of all our basic

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concepts

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in the hopes of turning up a discrepancy

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which might prove to be the key to a new

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unfortunately the program was plagued by

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well-meaning but misguided journalists

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who were looking for spectacular copy or

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copy which could be turned to political

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to such an extent that both those who

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were working on the project and the

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department of transport found themselves

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in an embarrassed position

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consequently when the project magnet

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report was made and permission sought to

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extend the scope of the investigation

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through federal financial support the

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decision was finally made in 1954

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that this would not be advisable in the

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face of the publicity from which the

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whole project had suffered

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project magnet was officially dropped by

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the department of transport in october

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although the department indicated its

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willingness to permit the continued use

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of laboratory facilities provided this

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could be done at no cost to the public

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treasury

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the project has been continuing under

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the government of canada are not

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partisan participants in the project and

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not in any way responsible for its

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conclusions

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magnet and contained in the official

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report were based on a rigid statistical

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analysis of citing reports and were as

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there is a 91 probability

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that at least some of the sightings are

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of real objects of unknown origin

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there is about 60 probability that these

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objects are alien vehicles that is alien

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meaning not of earthly fabrication

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i hope this uh little chat will possibly

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relationship with the official

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information concerning the contacts with

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space people so then there's this whole

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other side of him where he

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says with with space people and

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everything but i don't want to go that

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far right now i want to stop it there

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this is going to lead off into a

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different uh kind of tangent here uh

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far as him and project magnet is

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a document

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is called the smith memo

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department of transport that's where

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project magnet was out of

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and if you don't mind i'm just going to

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read right from it so it's memorandum to

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the controller of telecommunications for

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the past and wilbur smith wrote this by

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the way for the past several years we

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have been engaged in the study of

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various aspects of radio wave

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radiation atmospheric radioactivity and

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geomagnetism remember that geomagnetism

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investigations have contributed little

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propagation as yet but nevertheless have

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indicated several avenues of

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investigation which may well be explored

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track of a means whereby the potential

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constructed approximately a year ago and

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that sufficient energy was abstracted

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something basic principles in a

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qualitative manner and provided useful

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data for the design of a

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better unit

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has now been completed for a unit which

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should be self-sustaining and in

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addition provide a small surplus of

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power such a unit in addition to

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functioning as a pilot power plant

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should be large enough to permit the

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study of various reaction forces which

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are expected to develop we believe that

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of something which may well prove to be

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the introduction to new technology the

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existence of a different technology is

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born out of the investigations which are

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uh on at the present time in relation to

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flying saucers

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while in washington attending the

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narb conference two books were released

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the other donald kehoe the flank saucers

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sightings of ufos

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were of et origin and might well be

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studies of the saucer which

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fell into the hands of the united states

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government indicated that they operated

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i don't know what that says unknown

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magnetic principles it appeared to me

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that our own work in geomagnetics might

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well be the linkage between our

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technology and the tech

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technology by which the saucers are

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if it is assumed that our geomagnetic

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investigations are in the right

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direction the theory of operation of

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these saucers becomes quite

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with all observed features explained

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i made discrete inquiries through the

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canadian embassy staff in washington who

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are able to obtain for me the following

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information

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uh the matter is of the most highly

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classified subject in the united states

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government rating

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higher

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even over the h-bomb

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flank saucers exist

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their modus operandi is unknown but

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concentrated effort is

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being made by a small group headed by dr

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van over bush the entire matter is

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considered by the u.s authorities to be

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of tremendous significance

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i was further informed that the u.s

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authorities are investigating along

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quite a number of lines which might

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possibly be related to the saucers such

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as mental phenomena

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possibly that says mental phenomena and

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i gather that they are not doing too

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well since they indicated

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that if canada is doing anything at all

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in geomagnetics they would welcome a

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discussion with

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suitably accredited canadians

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well i'm not in a position to say we

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have

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solved even the first problems in

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something correlation between our basic

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theory and the available information on

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saucers

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checks too closely to be more than

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coincidence to be mere coincidence

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it is my honest opinion that we are on

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the right track and are fairly close to

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at least some of the answers

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mr wright defense research board liaison

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officer at the canadian embassy in

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washington was extremely anxious for me

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to get in touch with dr solin

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chairman of defense research board to

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discuss

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with him the future investigations along

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the line of geomagnetic energy release

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nothing

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you know more important than what we

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already talked about

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so

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what i want to go into from here

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is a couple things

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first obviously what's in parentheses

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here

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uh the matter is the most highly

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classified subject in the united states

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government

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rating higher than the h-bomb

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the other one is modus operandi is

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unknown

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a small group headed by doctor vanover

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bush

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november 21st 1950 right

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i'm going to take you to a document that

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shows us

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that beniver bush

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was an important person

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at this right time

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and probably was

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looking into this

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so the first thing i'm going to show you

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here

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and this came from the cia foia

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november 29th

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this is only eight days later

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uh 1950 memorandum for the deputy

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director of the central intelligence

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with regard to decision reached by the

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panel of consultants last friday

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which is

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literally almost the same day as the

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memo we just

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read from uh with regard to the decision

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by the panel of consultants last friday

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that dr van over bush be invited to

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become a member of that group i believe

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it is a matter of real importance that

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this invitation should be conveyed to dr

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bush by general smith

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personally i'm told by

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i don't know that the relations between

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dr bush and helen cutter

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uh left much to be desired and that as a

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matter of diplomacy and policy it would

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be advisable for smith to take a

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personal interest in this matter

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i

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that talks about

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uh saucer so to speak

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i'm showing you this

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to show you the relation of venover bush

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to everything that's going on here and

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why wilbert smith and what he said

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i had to be highly accurate

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and national estimates was a big deal

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they put together the intelligence

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estimates like when's the next time we

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can expect war the next emergency or

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anything like that so it's pretty big

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pretty pretty pretty big deal actually

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and

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there's definitely more so he had a lot

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to do with atomic energy and the

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disarmament of nuclear weapons around

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the world

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venover bush was a pretty big

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deal

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so if anyone was working on this stuff

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at the time

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it was most likely him as he was one of

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the most accredited

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scientists

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of the time

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another quick

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thing to show you here

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and this is just a

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says quickly to task it looks like this

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was a

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article something written i'm just going

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to read a little bit of this so i can

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put mr van over bush into context a

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little bit quietly to a desk

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pennsylvania is among four distinguished

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american citizens who have accepted the

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assignment one of the most important of

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our time to all the peoples of the world

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of making a new study on the problems of

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and we go down a little bit dr van dever

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busch and robert oppenheimer

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who i think is another one of these

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people that is in and out of this uh

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flying saucer stuff around this time too

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can't be positive i can only research

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one person at a time

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dr bush is renowned as one of the

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experts on science as applied to weapons

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of modern warfare and is otherwise

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greatly distinguished in the fields of

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science and education

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so

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just wanted to

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so we know that that guy is legit right

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so

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what happened let's see and this is

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speculation but let's say

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um these saucers like wilbert smith was

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saying were

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somehow powered by

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that could be interesting that's a power

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that is self-sustaining

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energy source

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and they're finding the secrets

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although obviously they keep them from

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what would make me think that

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well the thing that makes me think that

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is project magnet was not unique to

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canada at the time it was

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but that study continued

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although under different auspices

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it was called project magnet

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it was done by our government

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and there is

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a link

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quite possibly to walter smith's project

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magnet

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who uh thought

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that some of this had to do with

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geomagnetics

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so

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right now i'm going to play a clip by

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someone named bob beck

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who

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is sending this audio recording to

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knight cap

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and it's about a run-in he had with some

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pilots um who were flying a

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constellation plane

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and he saw the stamp project magnet on

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it

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let's take a listen

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uh last one last thursday august the

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22nd i was in san francisco just

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catching a plane home from the westcon

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the

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western conference of electronic

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manufacturers

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show in san francisco

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and out on one of the auxiliary runways

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we spotted this super constellation with

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the

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uh

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i happened to be in the restaurant

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shortly after that and two gentlemen

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which were obviously pilots sat down

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about one seat away from me and started

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discussing the

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uh ship that they had flown in here for

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part of the uh national geophysical year

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conference which uh seemed to be

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simultaneous with the westcon conference

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in san francisco

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and i was quite familiar with the

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constellations since i had

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tested these ships when i was a flight

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test engineer at lockheed

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and i asked them if project magnet on

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the tail signified the same as wilbert

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smith's project magnet in canada

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and the gentlemen were a little bit

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startled and they said why yes we're

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closely or were closely related

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i asked them if for old times sake i

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might be able to come out and take a

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look through the ship they granted me

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permission

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so on the way in and out i shot a few

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photographs these are a few from this

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series

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now the second shot

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shows clearly the markings on the ship

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the constellation the tip tanks etc

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the third shot shows a mr crowe c-r-o-w

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the gentleman with the beard standing

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beside the magnetic anomaly detector

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which was in the

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aft end of the constellation

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quick here i'm gonna stop because he

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talks about uh the magtometer the

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magnetic anomaly reader whatever so

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we've watched this

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if you watch this show before

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um you'll remember an episode where it

541
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was about correlation to um ufo

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sightings and

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picking up radiation right

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and they were scientists at los alamos

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who set these up and were picking up

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radiation counts and seeing ufos and

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they also were in i think it was palomar

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california

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right

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so

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just wanted to chime in there quick and

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let you know

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and kind of just put that together also

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there was um

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[Music]

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robert here can tell you a little bit

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more about that the aztec case the

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person who

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00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,640
was heavily involved in that case also

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00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:34,080
used something called the doodlebug

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which was actually mcdominer um

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magnometer

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i think i'm saying there right

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um which you know he said he used to

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track these things so all right back to

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it

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and he spoke rather guardedly that this

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constellation was a number

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one of a number unspecified

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00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,120
of ship specifically equipped with these

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00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,520
extremely highly sensitive magnetometers

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he said that the

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uh magnetic anomaly detector which was

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vertically polarized as opposed to

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horizontally polarized for the world war

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ii units which are still classified as

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secret

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had an absolute sensitivity of from 10

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to 20 gamma which i felt was rather

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remarkable compared to the old

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anti-submarine detectors that were used

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in world war ii

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i pressed him a little bit on the

584
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:30,720
subject uh naturally without mentioning

585
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,000
the term ufo and every answer that he

586
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:36,080
gave me before he finally clammed up

587
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,200
indicated

588
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,039
that one of the primary missions of this

589
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,279
particular constellation which had been

590
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,080
all over the uh world

591
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,480
was connected with the same thing that

592
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,600
the project magnet in canada uh was

593
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,600
searching for

594
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,120
he said that he knew of the work of

595
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,640
wilbert smith

596
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,520
he said that this was an outgrowth of uh

597
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,120
in cooperation with the canadian

598
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,240
government of project magnet in canada

599
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,320
and uh later when i made the mistake of

600
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,559
mentioning the word ufo he clammed up

601
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:08,240
almost immediately as if he were on

602
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:09,360
security

603
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,520
this ship was commissioned and paid for

604
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:16,320
by the department of the navy

605
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,200
and its cover story the reason which

606
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,200
they give for having this equipment on

607
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,360
board was that it is

608
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,000
searching out magnetic anomalies for

609
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,159
navigational purposes and that these

610
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,720
isometric lines uh which this ship can

611
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,840
determine

612
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,080
are then forwarded to the u s

613
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,240
coast and geodetic survey office where

614
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,400
they will eventually go on navigational

615
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:40,960
charts all over the world

616
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,919
but mr crowe in this picture after

617
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,159
i had the opportunity to communicate

618
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,559
with him for about ten minutes

619
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,320
indicated rather strongly that the

620
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:53,039
primary purpose of this was for magnetic

621
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:55,120
anomalies coming from above

622
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:57,039
the surface of the earth

623
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:00,159
when i asked him if his crew had found

624
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,200
any uh anomalies coming from above he

625
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,520
said yes very definitely in the area of

626
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,520
key west florida

627
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,200
uh that when they flew close to the

628
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,159
surface of the earth they got rather

629
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,200
uh smooth isometric lines when they flew

630
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,880
at higher altitudes these things were

631
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,880
rough which would indicate to him that

632
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,559
at the particular time this mission was

633
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:21,840
flown

634
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,559
the

635
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,399
magnetic anomalies were coming from

636
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,919
above the earth

637
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:27,760
now the next photograph in this series

638
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:30,799
is a close-up of this anomaly detector

639
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,360
which is fantastically sensitive

640
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,600
the fifth shot series shows the

641
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,640
navigator station this chair on the post

642
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:40,640
uh with a lookout for

643
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,120
their uh astro navigation

644
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,440
and behind it the control panels for the

645
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,679
magnetic detectors

646
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,520
the last shot in this series shows a

647
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,760
close-up of the bench uh for the

648
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,000
electronic control and charting position

649
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,720
for the magnetic anomaly detectors

650
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,240
another thing which came out of this

651
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,480
conversation was that several of our

652
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:02,960
satellites were equipped with heavy

653
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,960
water proton progression type

654
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,880
magnetometers

655
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,880
uh the cover story here again being that

656
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,559
they were searching for magnetic

657
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,799
anomalies in the earth's magnetic field

658
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,720
and the very very obvious inference

659
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,000
being that they were searching for

660
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,640
unidentified flying objects which in

661
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,399
some way disturbed the earth's magnetic

662
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,720
field and gave themselves away in this

663
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,640
manner i thought this was rather

664
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,159
interesting you might add it to your

665
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,120
collection of unsolved data my own

666
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:31,360
conclusion based on talking with both

667
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,120
the pilots and the co-pilot and mr crow

668
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,880
was that they are quite aware that this

669
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,200
ship is being used and part of the

670
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,039
overall search for the

671
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:44,240
uh ufo

672
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,310
so

673
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,159
you know when i heard that it was pretty

674
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,480
interesting to me because it kind of

675
00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,039
there was some synchronicity there

676
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:02,320
uh lining up with things i was already

677
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,279
like kind of looking into

678
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,799
and i've always heard when you're

679
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,960
getting hit with synchronicity that's a

680
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:11,279
good thing so

681
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:12,640
maybe it means something maybe it

682
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,760
doesn't

683
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,669
if we now go to

684
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,870
a couple things the first

685
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:24,640
is

686
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:27,679
a little bit about

687
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,720
um our project magnum which he was

688
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:32,000
correct

689
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,520
uh was navy it was a navy project

690
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,760
everything that he said in there lines

691
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:39,440
up with

692
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:40,640
what were

693
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,960
online about this through various

694
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,640
documents

695
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:47,760
other than

696
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,549
so it's interesting here because

697
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,640
this i'm showing

698
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:58,559
for a particular reason aerial

699
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,600
reconnaissance on the ussr right

700
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,600
so you mentioned during the geophysical

701
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,720
year

702
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:06,640
here it is the international and

703
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,760
geophysical year 5758 being unique

704
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:10,960
opportunity

705
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,440
if so tentative requirements blah blah

706
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,279
so they wanted to throw an earth

707
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:17,840
satellite vehicle up

708
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,200
as and use the geophysical year as cover

709
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,630
so the reason i'm bringing this into

710
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,279
play here is a couple of reasons we have

711
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:33,679
lockheed mentioned and i believe uh van

712
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,039
over bush wrote this

713
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,240
so but that's not

714
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:45,350
i just wanted to make that connection to

715
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:51,750
the next document is a little bit more

716
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,080
important

717
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:56,559
because it's labeled

718
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,750
regarding mcg

719
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,679
wg material

720
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:07,120
so

721
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,600
march 16 1967 to the director

722
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,000
blah blah blah goes

723
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:20,559
a little farther so you can see this has

724
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:23,519
gone on quite a bit longer than even the

725
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,909
the thing that's weird to me is it says

726
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,360
bob here bob wants to have the

727
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,200
opportunity to coordinate such internal

728
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,960
dld questions prior to formal

729
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:37,200
presentation that guy who just spoke his

730
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,880
name is bob

731
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,120
but there's no last name

732
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:43,039
so i'm thinking like is this like an

733
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,480
inside kind of misinformation job

734
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,919
but i can't really tell because there's

735
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,559
no last name for bob

736
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:53,120
so now we're gonna go back to these they

737
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,320
have these uh older project magnet

738
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,000
documents in here

739
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,799
so you can see this commander at naval

740
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:03,600
oceanographic office

741
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,559
subject geodetic data support

742
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:09,120
reference tri-service dff data reduction

743
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,000
program

744
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:12,159
enclosed project magnet airborne

745
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,710
that's it's a true story what he was

746
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,880
just saying other than

747
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,880
we don't know about the flag saucer part

748
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:24,159
but

749
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:28,880
you know there's a lot blanked out here

750
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:29,679
like

751
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,070
so it's

752
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:43,909
project magnet

753
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,890
so i took

754
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:46,799
[Music]

755
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,950
to look a little further into it

756
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:54,960
so right here it says

757
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,679
nev oceano's project magnet

758
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,600
aircraft

759
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,080
constellation type again

760
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:04,159
that's what the bob guy said

761
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,470
interesting

762
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,750
so the other thing

763
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:19,509
that i wanted to get into is

764
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:21,360
the nav oceano

765
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,159
so

766
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,880
i did a little bit of looking into who

767
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:26,399
who is that right i've never heard of

768
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,840
that gotta google that what is that

769
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,679
well

770
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:33,440
pretty interesting

771
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:36,480
who they are now

772
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,029
so

773
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,269
i'm gonna show you quick

774
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:49,760
and if you

775
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,399
uh follow me on twitter you may have a

776
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,320
kind of inkling of who i'm talking about

777
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:03,909
boom this is who it is

778
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:06,630
naval meteorology and oceanography

779
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:20,230
pretty interesting album here

780
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,750
especially if

781
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,599
this stuff you know like if these

782
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,599
saucers or whatever has to do with

783
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:27,520
geomagnetic stuff

784
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:30,399
stuff coming from the ocean

785
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,440
it all kind of makes sense

786
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,359
to me

787
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,280
so i'm going to play

788
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:39,839
or show you one more thing

789
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:42,480
and it has to do with what their motto

790
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:43,520
is

791
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,280
their motto

792
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:46,960
is mission

793
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,780
to the stars

794
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:00,470
[Laughter]

795
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,190
pretty crazy

796
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:11,670
and we're told all the time and people

797
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,119
have thought about things from the ocean

798
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:17,839
also in the sky

799
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:24,069
the earth lights we went over this

800
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:31,670
the earth lights

801
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,510
from the ocean from the river

802
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,990
and some people say that you can control

803
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,320
them consciously

804
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,040
some people say that they are

805
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,370
um

806
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,280
[Music]

807
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,200
you know

808
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:53,760
ancestors of sort that have been

809
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,400
uh with this earth longer than than we

810
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,640
know or if the whole time and i line

811
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:00,560
that up with what lou elizondo says and

812
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,790
it's very interesting like the minman

813
00:36:09,010 --> 00:36:08,640
lights in australia

814
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:09,020
um

815
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,240
[Music]

816
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:12,079
and there's there's all these lubock

817
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,599
lights there's all these other like

818
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:15,200
lights right

819
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,510
it's very interesting

820
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:26,950
so

821
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,680
i don't know if this is a stretch

822
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:31,280
or not

823
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:32,079
but

824
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,280
sense to me which is really hard to do

825
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:44,160
uh in this topic

826
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,119
also

827
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,960
atomic bomb blasts

828
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,880
so like those lights like earth lights

829
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:50,960
and stuff it's friction so if there's a

830
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,680
lot of pressure in the air

831
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,069
or different uh magnetic stuff happening

832
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,400
in the atmosphere upper ear research so

833
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:01,760
to speak

834
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,670
so an atomic bomb blast

835
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:15,030
for instance

836
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,599
i would imagine

837
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:18,480
i

838
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,000
could make those

839
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,270
lines up with that quite a bit

840
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,109
and it gets pretty

841
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,680
crazy as far as how far back this goes

842
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,599
in like people's spiritual rituals and

843
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:37,119
stuff

844
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,390
yes

845
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:46,470
intelligently controlled

846
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,150
pretty crazy

847
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:57,990
do i have any proof of course not

848
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,960
i'm just lining up all these things

849
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,640
that seem

850
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:04,720
connected somehow

851
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,640
does that mean they are no it doesn't

852
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:10,800
but it's uh it was worth looking into

853
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:17,670
so

854
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,470
uh with that

855
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:23,040
i'm going to

856
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:24,240
play some

857
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:30,870
that are

858
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:39,109
because um yeah i think it'll be

859
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:42,560
pretty cool like the lights i saw

860
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,680
i mean

861
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:46,079
first of all my like my first thing that

862
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:47,200
i had

863
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,400
um

864
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,800
i don't know how else to explain it but

865
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:52,320
something like that

866
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:54,800
um those like red orbs that i've had

867
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:57,200
there's so many descriptions of

868
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,119
these red orbs

869
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:03,359
and changing colors and these lights can

870
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,440
be different colors and go fast

871
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,960
there was one guy

872
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:11,200
i watched he talked about one that he

873
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:24,790
i don't know pretty interesting

874
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,310
and you know some people

875
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:34,000
think that

876
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,280
um

877
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,200
these lights or whatever it is have the

878
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,520
ability to so they're reported as

879
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:41,040
different things too like different

880
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:45,119
shapes different geometric figures

881
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,870
yeah

882
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,800
expendable 72 i would love to get time

883
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,800
to long on here i've emailed a couple

884
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,400
times but

885
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:57,680
no dice

886
00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:01,280
unfortunately

887
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:02,240
so

888
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,589
um

889
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,920
it's pretty interesting

890
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,280
i would love to

891
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:16,960
there's a guy that i would really love

892
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,550
i get on the show but he doesn't have

893
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,560
like any

894
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,560
um

895
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,880
my contact information or anything out

896
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,640
there

897
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,200
but i think his name is peter devereaux

898
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,200
i want to say

899
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:39,030
he

900
00:41:02,470 --> 00:40:59,270
but it's combining consciousness in

901
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,480
these unidentified lights

902
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,720
i just hear all the time that what this

903
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:08,000
is has to do with consciousness

904
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:09,760
and i think

905
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:12,160
there could be some sort of freaking

906
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:17,990
um well at least enough that it is very

907
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,720
interesting to me

908
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,319
that's for sure

909
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,520
i would like to

910
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:25,520
[Music]

911
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,190
to put up if i can find the video

912
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,160
it's a video of this guy talking

913
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:38,800
this peter guy was just talking about

914
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:41,920
put out the book earth lights

915
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:47,270
i'm just getting like a lot of weird

916
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:50,079
crappy videos

917
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:50,960
that

918
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,760
then i heard the right one

919
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:56,400
that's for sure

920
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,440
but

921
00:42:01,589 --> 00:42:00,240
oh yeah i found it

922
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,599
i found it

923
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:03,040
so

924
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:19,270
i'm gonna bring it up here

925
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:21,359
this is the guy

926
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,430
not peter paul

927
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:45,750
they seem to be the same sort of family

928
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,440
as uh earthquake lights and uh ball

929
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,880
lightning

930
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,200
and ball lining occurs in association

931
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:55,440
usually with thunderstorms

932
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,880
uh

933
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,720
earthquake lights usually glow in the

934
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:00,960
sky that occurs just before

935
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,000
uh and perhaps see perhaps just after an

936
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,319
actual earthquake takes place

937
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:08,480
uh and sometimes it produces balls of

938
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:12,480
light uh rather similar to earth lights

939
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:18,550
occasioned by the pressure

940
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,480
in the tectonic mass ground

941
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,430
unusual

942
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,520
they have special properties that i'll

943
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,280
mention later

944
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,829
usually spherical and usually aerial in

945
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:39,119
the sky

946
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,720
and sometimes they can come out of the

947
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,359
ground and have seen been seen emerging

948
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,520
from the ground

949
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,400
uh

950
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,720
they they are usually about sort of

951
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:50,720
football size

952
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,040
like spherical but not always

953
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,599
they are usually luminous

954
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,520
hence lights

955
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:02,000
but they are um

956
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:12,150
uh i've seen both kinds uh and in fact

957
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,920
it's it was a case an event in 1967 may

958
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:19,680
1967 that really got me interested into

959
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,480
them

960
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,560
and told me that things weren't quite

961
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:24,880
what everybody says

962
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,000
and it was when i was at art college in

963
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,880
ravensbourne college of art as then was

964
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:32,720
which about three or four miles south of

965
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:35,200
bromley on bromley common

966
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,750
i had gone to the we're on the top floor

967
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:48,560
third or fourth floor in the studio

968
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,760
and i didn't want to put on the

969
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,359
artificial light because i was mixing

970
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,520
some colors and i wanted natural light

971
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,359
so i went over to the north facing

972
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,359
window of the studio

973
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:59,119
and something caught my eye and i looked

974
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,319
up

975
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,480
there was this pulsing orange light

976
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,119
coming towards the college

977
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,800
and uh

978
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:08,640
it came to a halt

979
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,359
uh over the field in front of the

980
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,680
college it was about

981
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,680
a few hundred feet up in the air perhaps

982
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,119
a hundred feet perhaps three or four

983
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,200
hundred feet i'm not sure

984
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:21,359
and it came to a complete stationary

985
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:22,400
hold

986
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,359
and this one was not spherical it was

987
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,760
rectangular just like a door

988
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:29,920
corners and everything and pulsing

989
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,510
i was shocked i couldn't say anything

990
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,520
for a few minutes and i called out to

991
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:43,359
other people still working late in the

992
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:44,560
college it

993
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:45,839
was in the

994
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,160
late afternoon early evening

995
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:49,920
in may

996
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:52,480
uh so it was still light outside but it

997
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,599
was

998
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,240
getting dark inside the studio

999
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,560
without artificial lightning hence i was

1000
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,359
out the window this thing came down

1001
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:03,680
and was just pulsing there

1002
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,280
i called out to the others so other

1003
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,280
people saw this as well

1004
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,839
and also i saw that out on the car park

1005
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,280
below

1006
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,680
people coming streaming out of the

1007
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:16,480
crown floor of the college uh looking up

1008
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:19,359
at this thing so a lot of people saw it

1009
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,280
pulsing rectangular light

1010
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:25,760
and it did other things but i won't go

1011
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,480
into that it sort of changed its shape

1012
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:30,480
it was just riveting

1013
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:33,250
and i i didn't know what to make of it

1014
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:43,910
so i gave you the link you should really

1015
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,160
uh watch that and it also has a website

1016
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,839
so

1017
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:51,680
you know you don't know what things are

1018
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,880
unless you don't know what they heard

1019
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,800
not so this

1020
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:57,040
was very interesting to me i hope it was

1021
00:47:03,829 --> 00:46:58,560
interesting to you

1022
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,829
and i plan on probably continuing to

1023
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:07,200
look into it

1024
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:08,000
and

1025
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,200
so

1026
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,599
the further he goes into it the more he

1027
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,240
talks about the possible connections to

1028
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:16,640
uh consciousness so

1029
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:21,349
definitely

1030
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,549
yeah

1031
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,800
no it's a total trippy account so we

1032
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,720
started off talking about like it you

1033
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,640
know maybe the same family or whatever

1034
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:43,119
as ball lightning or earthquake lights

1035
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,240
or whatever

1036
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,960
um but goes to say that it's definitely

1037
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,760
not

1038
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,520
and the more you get into this guy the

1039
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:51,520
more he talks about

1040
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,400
um

1041
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,800
the deeper deeper connections that this

1042
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,760
stuff

1043
00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:57,920
could really uh

1044
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:01,760
be from and what it could possibly be

1045
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,559
so

1046
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:04,000
it's really interesting you don't see

1047
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,000
him talk too much about it because uh

1048
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,599
and other people that study like the

1049
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,839
earth lights stuff

1050
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,359
um

1051
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,520
for different reasons but you know i

1052
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,549
you know it might be worth looking into

1053
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:21,200
just a little bit um

1054
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,960
for sure

1055
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,359
that's where like the project magnetic

1056
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:26,880
stuff led me to

1057
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:30,240
and it kind of covers what i've seen so

1058
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,309
so and like if you know going back to

1059
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,640
the show yesterday and john keel

1060
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,720
and now he was talking about the lights

1061
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,280
over the ohio river

1062
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:49,680
and how he had a flashlight and he was

1063
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,920
checking off morse code to them and they

1064
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:53,200
would do

1065
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,000
what he messaged them and then he came

1066
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,870
language

1067
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,960
and they were able to still communicate

1068
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,240
with them and that really freaked them

1069
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,400
out so

1070
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,160
and then you take that to like the tic

1071
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,800
tac story

1072
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:11,839
right

1073
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:13,760
of this thing going to a cat point

1074
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,240
before favorite it like how did it know

1075
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,990
so

1076
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,040
um

1077
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:31,430
very interesting stuff

1078
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,630
so now

1079
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,150
we're going to

1080
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,470
do our bit called what the heck is that

1081
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,190
the heck is that

1082
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:51,839
what the heck it is that

1083
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,910
actually put some time into it this time

1084
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:58,960
so

1085
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,079
could be

1086
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:09,349
as far as the videos

1087
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:14,549
what the heck is that the heck is that

1088
00:50:14,559 --> 00:55:25,750
what the heck is the heck is that

1089
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:39,510
foreign

1090
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,589
well it's 2022 so hopefully that comes

1091
00:56:49,589 --> 00:55:43,920
out soon

1092
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:53,670
no agent aliens we're not doing that

1093
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:56,390
so yeah um

1094
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,630
just uh i don't know

1095
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:05,520
throw that out there that guy in the

1096
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,960
documentary there

1097
00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:08,799
actually i believe it was him that

1098
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,720
didn't interview with disclosure team

1099
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,000
vinnie vinnie

1100
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,000
so i'm gonna try to interview that guy

1101
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,440
too because that would be pretty cool so

1102
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:20,319
um that would be cool

1103
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,190
oh you had no sound uh was that maybe

1104
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,599
just for the videos that was playing

1105
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,280
perhaps

1106
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:33,119
i don't know

1107
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,559
i'm not sure

1108
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:36,079
anyways

1109
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,799
that is all i got for you today thanks

1110
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,880
so much for hanging out y'all

1111
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,640
um tomorrow we're gonna have a guest

1112
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:44,079
thursday we're gonna have a guest so if

1113
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,599
you're getting sick of me being by

1114
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:47,839
myself

1115
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,789
um then after that i'll probably take a

1116
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,520
little bit of a break maybe like a week

1117
00:58:00,310 --> 00:57:59,920
break or something like that so

1118
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,320
um

1119
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,839
[Music]

1120
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,920
and kind of get my thoughts together and

1121
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:05,359
stuff and

1122
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:09,839
and what i'm thinking so

1123
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,559
i appreciate you

1124
00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:14,640
and i will see you